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	<title>Comments on: What would you do&#8230;? (#6)</title>
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		<title>By: agent101</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/03/29/what-would-you-do6/comment-page-1/#comment-82244</link>
		<dc:creator>agent101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 02:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forget moving to a different agency and waste another 5 years what you do is try find a average college football player at your old college and try your hardest to represent him because it is sometimes easier to represent college players at your alma mater, look at drew rosenhaus most of his clients are former miami hurricanes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget moving to a different agency and waste another 5 years what you do is try find a average college football player at your old college and try your hardest to represent him because it is sometimes easier to represent college players at your alma mater, look at drew rosenhaus most of his clients are former miami hurricanes</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Crannell</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/03/29/what-would-you-do6/comment-page-1/#comment-69142</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Crannell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds counterintuitive because it is “good business” to promote your brightest and best performing employees. But this is not the norm in the sports representation industry for several reasons...

First, working in the sports industry is a great job. In fact, it is one of the best jobs that a person can have. Therefore there is little employee turnover. In other words, people don’t want to quit their sports job. Not many people want to go from working with athletes all day to working behind a desk all day as a banker, management consultant, etc. So the middle management positions are not opening up for the entry level employees to take in the sports industry like they would in most other industries. 

Second, the benefits of a &quot;free market&quot; (e.g., higher wages) are significantly limited in the sports industry because most employees have a &quot;non-compete&quot; clause in their employment contract. So entry level employees cannot accept a higher position at another sports agency because they would have to sit out (1-2 years). This is also one of the reasons why the wages are suppressed. Companies can rarely enter into a bidding war for the services of a sports agent because of the non-compete clauses.  

Thirdly, it is common practice for well established sport agencies to acquire talent (e.g., tennis players, snowboarders) by purchasing small sport agencies. The well established agency then appoints the President/Founder of the small agency into a middle management position. So this method of doing business further limits the number of middle management jobs that are available to entry level employees. 

But keep in mind that these examples apply mostly to established sport agencies. In other words, companies that are not going to expand much in the next several years. This really does not apply to a &quot;start-up&quot; sports agency. A start-up sports agency will most likely bring on additional staff if it does well and many of those positions will involve very important responsibilities. For example, it could be running a new office or starting a new division. And of course the owner of the start-up will most likely consider the entry level employees for advancement before they seek people outside of the organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds counterintuitive because it is “good business” to promote your brightest and best performing employees. But this is not the norm in the sports representation industry for several reasons&#8230;</p>
<p>First, working in the sports industry is a great job. In fact, it is one of the best jobs that a person can have. Therefore there is little employee turnover. In other words, people don’t want to quit their sports job. Not many people want to go from working with athletes all day to working behind a desk all day as a banker, management consultant, etc. So the middle management positions are not opening up for the entry level employees to take in the sports industry like they would in most other industries. </p>
<p>Second, the benefits of a &#8220;free market&#8221; (e.g., higher wages) are significantly limited in the sports industry because most employees have a &#8220;non-compete&#8221; clause in their employment contract. So entry level employees cannot accept a higher position at another sports agency because they would have to sit out (1-2 years). This is also one of the reasons why the wages are suppressed. Companies can rarely enter into a bidding war for the services of a sports agent because of the non-compete clauses.  </p>
<p>Thirdly, it is common practice for well established sport agencies to acquire talent (e.g., tennis players, snowboarders) by purchasing small sport agencies. The well established agency then appoints the President/Founder of the small agency into a middle management position. So this method of doing business further limits the number of middle management jobs that are available to entry level employees. </p>
<p>But keep in mind that these examples apply mostly to established sport agencies. In other words, companies that are not going to expand much in the next several years. This really does not apply to a &#8220;start-up&#8221; sports agency. A start-up sports agency will most likely bring on additional staff if it does well and many of those positions will involve very important responsibilities. For example, it could be running a new office or starting a new division. And of course the owner of the start-up will most likely consider the entry level employees for advancement before they seek people outside of the organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Insidetheleague.com</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/03/29/what-would-you-do6/comment-page-1/#comment-69135</link>
		<dc:creator>Insidetheleague.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scenario you describe is one I see all the time. Unfortunately, for this scenario, I don&#039;t really see any way out. I know one aspiring agent faced with this situation who got out of the game altogether and now works outside the biz in Denver. He&#039;s a very talented guy, but he decided that taking crap for a living and making no money was no kind of life.

Another friend of mine got out of the biz, but kind of moved laterally. He got a sales job that gave him lots of flexibility, and now he&#039;s working his way into the marketing field, and I think he has a good shot to fight his way back into the biz that way, though not necessarily as a member of the NFLPA. 

I have another friend who left a high-profile agent and stayed in the game, moving to another high-powered agent who brought him in as a partner and not as a minion. Unfortunately, he was so bitter toward his former boss that he wound up getting into trouble, and he&#039;s had a setback with the PA as a result of it. 

If you want to get into the game and have success quickly, I recommend three things. First, have LOTS of disposable income so you can &#039;play the game&#039; effectively with other high-end agents; it&#039;s going to cost a lot of money. Second, do your own &#039;running.&#039; Every year agents try to leave the recruiting to others, then find out they&#039;ve thrown away a lot of money on people/services who were only thieves. Third, situate yourself in a &#039;target-rich&#039; environment (i.e., probably the Southeast -- Atlanta, Miami, maybe Memphis, maybe Baton Rouge).

I have three subscribers to my service who have been certified less than three years. All three have either (a) one player in the NFL, making money for them on an active (not practice) roster, or (b) will have one after the draft (in one case of an agent who&#039;s been certified less than two years). Of course, I think part of their success was from being a subscriber to my service and never having a problem accepting my humble help/advice/tips/whatever when they needed someone to turn to. But the most important part was that they were in the right place with the right resources.

Anyway . . . that&#039;s my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scenario you describe is one I see all the time. Unfortunately, for this scenario, I don&#8217;t really see any way out. I know one aspiring agent faced with this situation who got out of the game altogether and now works outside the biz in Denver. He&#8217;s a very talented guy, but he decided that taking crap for a living and making no money was no kind of life.</p>
<p>Another friend of mine got out of the biz, but kind of moved laterally. He got a sales job that gave him lots of flexibility, and now he&#8217;s working his way into the marketing field, and I think he has a good shot to fight his way back into the biz that way, though not necessarily as a member of the NFLPA. </p>
<p>I have another friend who left a high-profile agent and stayed in the game, moving to another high-powered agent who brought him in as a partner and not as a minion. Unfortunately, he was so bitter toward his former boss that he wound up getting into trouble, and he&#8217;s had a setback with the PA as a result of it. </p>
<p>If you want to get into the game and have success quickly, I recommend three things. First, have LOTS of disposable income so you can &#8216;play the game&#8217; effectively with other high-end agents; it&#8217;s going to cost a lot of money. Second, do your own &#8216;running.&#8217; Every year agents try to leave the recruiting to others, then find out they&#8217;ve thrown away a lot of money on people/services who were only thieves. Third, situate yourself in a &#8216;target-rich&#8217; environment (i.e., probably the Southeast &#8212; Atlanta, Miami, maybe Memphis, maybe Baton Rouge).</p>
<p>I have three subscribers to my service who have been certified less than three years. All three have either (a) one player in the NFL, making money for them on an active (not practice) roster, or (b) will have one after the draft (in one case of an agent who&#8217;s been certified less than two years). Of course, I think part of their success was from being a subscriber to my service and never having a problem accepting my humble help/advice/tips/whatever when they needed someone to turn to. But the most important part was that they were in the right place with the right resources.</p>
<p>Anyway . . . that&#8217;s my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Sturgill</title>
		<link>http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/03/29/what-would-you-do6/comment-page-1/#comment-68896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Sturgill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a difficult position to be put in, but I&#039;m sure it happens quite often.  Because of the low income I have received over the past 3 years, I would consider it very hard to impossible to go out on my own and start a business and because of the 3 years already spent at a top agency, I would stick with it.  This hypothecial also varies upon other factors going on in my life at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a difficult position to be put in, but I&#8217;m sure it happens quite often.  Because of the low income I have received over the past 3 years, I would consider it very hard to impossible to go out on my own and start a business and because of the 3 years already spent at a top agency, I would stick with it.  This hypothecial also varies upon other factors going on in my life at the time.</p>
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