Comments on: Dynasty’s Fall 2008 Internship Class http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/ Sports Business, Sports Law, Sports Negotiations, NCAA Rules Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Darren Heitner http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87892 Darren Heitner Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:01:36 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87892 Bryan- Feel free to send over a cover letter and resume and indicate that you are interested in the Spring. Thanks. Bryan-

Feel free to send over a cover letter and resume and indicate that you are interested in the Spring. Thanks.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87883 Bryan Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:17:08 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87883 I was wondering if there are positions for interns during the spring semester. I currently have a full coarse load and would love to do the internship during the second semester, please let me know if you will be accepting internships then. I was wondering if there are positions for interns during the spring semester. I currently have a full coarse load and would love to do the internship during the second semester, please let me know if you will be accepting internships then.

]]> By: Stubs http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87710 Stubs Mon, 04 Aug 2008 03:04:52 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87710 Be honest, Darren - your "human resources" dpt is just you in your basement, isnt it? Be honest, Darren – your “human resources” dpt is just you in your basement, isnt it?

]]> By: Justin Herzig http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87242 Justin Herzig Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:01:14 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87242 Sorry posted without seeing Jason's comment...While it worked for him and some of his friends, I would still be weary of some of the potential issues. Sorry posted without seeing Jason’s comment…While it worked for him and some of his friends, I would still be weary of some of the potential issues.

]]> By: Justin Herzig http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87241 Justin Herzig Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:59:16 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87241 That is a very interesting question SC. I had looked into it in the past and there is no rule explicitly stating the legality or what would happen to one's eligibility in this case. However, here is what I have concluded: I see nothing wrong with a student-athlete interning for a sports agency as long as the following things don't happen. 1) Any contract signed is only based off interning for a set period of time with no mention of future representation between the agency and the student-athlete. 2) It must be an un-paid internship. These are the two easiest restrictions to meet. Granted I understand that student-athletes can work normal jobs where they are being paid for their labor like any other employee but I feel the line would be crossed if a student-athlete were paid to work for an agency. If the NCAA allowed this, it would set the way for agencies to say "we're just paying X athlete $1000 an hour for the work he is doing for us." A line must be set and it would be nearly impossible with inflation and many other variables to make a limit for how much an athlete could be paid. Now the internship being unpaid and the lack of a contract mentioning representation are quite black and white. There is still two more areas though, that must be examined where the line is a tad bit more fuzzy. First is the year of the student-athlete in coordinance with the sport he/she plays . What I'm getting at is that since agencies cannot contact certain athletes until a specified time in their career, even if it is only talking, a student-athlete interning for a sports agency would violate that rule. Meaning you would probably not be able to do an internship even if it meets the requirements at the top if you are not at the year of your career for your sport where an agent can legally contact you. The final thing that must be mentioned is based off the location of the school. For example, in both Tennessee and Florida, an agent must first notify the school before contacting the player. Thus it gets to the point where for some states, even if all three of the aforementioned restrictions are met, the school still may have the ability to forbid the relationship from happening. All in all, my suggestion would be to contact your coach or athletic director before doing anything else. In some situations, it may be very possibly for you to intern and it could be a decision that positively affects the rest of your life. However, make sure it's not the reason you lose your scholarship and lose the ability to ever play your sport again or possibly even attend college. That is a very interesting question SC. I had looked into it in the past and there is no rule explicitly stating the legality or what would happen to one’s eligibility in this case. However, here is what I have concluded:

I see nothing wrong with a student-athlete interning for a sports agency as long as the following things don’t happen. 1) Any contract signed is only based off interning for a set period of time with no mention of future representation between the agency and the student-athlete. 2) It must be an un-paid internship. These are the two easiest restrictions to meet.

Granted I understand that student-athletes can work normal jobs where they are being paid for their labor like any other employee but I feel the line would be crossed if a student-athlete were paid to work for an agency. If the NCAA allowed this, it would set the way for agencies to say “we’re just paying X athlete $1000 an hour for the work he is doing for us.” A line must be set and it would be nearly impossible with inflation and many other variables to make a limit for how much an athlete could be paid.

Now the internship being unpaid and the lack of a contract mentioning representation are quite black and white. There is still two more areas though, that must be examined where the line is a tad bit more fuzzy. First is the year of the student-athlete in coordinance with the sport he/she plays . What I’m getting at is that since agencies cannot contact certain athletes until a specified time in their career, even if it is only talking, a student-athlete interning for a sports agency would violate that rule. Meaning you would probably not be able to do an internship even if it meets the requirements at the top if you are not at the year of your career for your sport where an agent can legally contact you. The final thing that must be mentioned is based off the location of the school. For example, in both Tennessee and Florida, an agent must first notify the school before contacting the player. Thus it gets to the point where for some states, even if all three of the aforementioned restrictions are met, the school still may have the ability to forbid the relationship from happening.

All in all, my suggestion would be to contact your coach or athletic director before doing anything else. In some situations, it may be very possibly for you to intern and it could be a decision that positively affects the rest of your life. However, make sure it’s not the reason you lose your scholarship and lose the ability to ever play your sport again or possibly even attend college.

]]> By: Jason http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87240 Jason Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:53:26 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87240 There's really no issue in a NCAA student-athlete in working for an agent, as long as that agent isn't soliciting that athlete to become his client. I played sports in college and interned for agents, and I know several others who did as well. There’s really no issue in a NCAA student-athlete in working for an agent, as long as that agent isn’t soliciting that athlete to become his client. I played sports in college and interned for agents, and I know several others who did as well.

]]> By: SC http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-87094 SC Sat, 02 Aug 2008 06:01:44 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-87094 Is it legal for a student-athlete to intern or apply to work for an agent? Is it legal for a student-athlete to intern or apply to work for an agent?

]]> By: Darren Heitner http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-86948 Darren Heitner Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:05:26 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-86948 The type of work cannot be confined to a response of your comment. But to give you some ideas...Daily News & Notes, marketing brochures, building social networking platforms for clients, cold calling, potential sponsors/endorsement spreadsheets, business growth opportunities, MUCH MUCH MUCH more. It is a work-intensive position, so availability is important. If you want to talk to current interns about their experience, email either jherzig@dynastyreps.com or umirza@dynastyreps.com. The type of work cannot be confined to a response of your comment. But to give you some ideas…Daily News & Notes, marketing brochures, building social networking platforms for clients, cold calling, potential sponsors/endorsement spreadsheets, business growth opportunities, MUCH MUCH MUCH more.

It is a work-intensive position, so availability is important. If you want to talk to current interns about their experience, email either jherzig@dynastyreps.com or umirza@dynastyreps.com.

]]> By: Joe Stuckel http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2008/08/01/dynastys-fall-2008-internship-class/#comment-86947 Joe Stuckel Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:59:13 +0000 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/?p=1560#comment-86947 I'm just curious on how it works with the interns working from their current location. What kind of work are they expected to do? Also, what type of availibility is required? Thanks, Joe I’m just curious on how it works with the interns working from their current location. What kind of work are they expected to do? Also, what type of availibility is required?

Thanks,

Joe

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