Comments on: BJ Armstrong Loses His First Client

By: Carnival of the NBA #63: Stress Relief | WaitingForNextYear

Carnival of the NBA #63: Stress Relief | WaitingForNextYear — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:21:49 +0000

[...] man. You have don’t have any friends. Or any family. Or any land. Or any clients. At least one less than you did. You obviously don’t bring enough fire. Use the “fear and surge of [...]

By: aGent37

aGent37 — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:26:02 +0000

Long live the Yankees! If we can’t buy a world series… well than we might as well cheat our way to one!

By: Justin Herzig

Justin Herzig — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:09:21 +0000

I must say I love the conversations and posts when they have a great deal of discussion. On that note, I feel a post on A-fraud would gain a great amount of discussion, especially with the new interview just released on SportsCenter today.

By: Darren Heitner

Darren Heitner — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:00:21 +0000

This is work? This is my pleasure!

By: Luca Esposito

Luca Esposito — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 22:48:07 +0000

Personally, I don’t like Randolph’s move here. I feel that as a rookie it’s your job to lay low and not stir up any drama. Firing BJ for that reason can give off a high maintenance impression, and the last thing you want to do when establishing yourself in the league is earn a bad reputation. We all saw what happened with Joakim Noah last year for the little that he said. Maybe after you get your first season under your belt and still feel unsatisfied do you then consider different routes. He has to know that his time will come, I mean we haven’t even hit the All-Star break yet.

And Darren, props on doing work on your birthday!

By: Darren Heitner

Darren Heitner — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:42:05 +0000

Now you are changing your statement. Recommended signing bonuses are a new part of baseball. Recommended signing bonuses are very different than mandatory slotting values. There is still the possibility that an agent has his client sign for more than the recommended bonus in baseball. In basketball, that is not the case.

By: bobby rosenberg

bobby rosenberg — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:39:57 +0000

Darren
Major League Baseball has a recommended signing bonus based on what pick a player is drafted. 90% of the players that sign – sign for the recommended slot bonus.

thanks

By: Jack Paper

Jack Paper — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:16:01 +0000

Who is Elfus in regards to Tyrus Thomas?

By: Darren Heitner

Darren Heitner — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:08:47 +0000

I 100% agree that it is a way to justify “taking a cut off of a slotted K.” A marketing agent definitely helps out a contractual agent. That’s why I would prefer that Dynasty were Rulon’s K advisor and marketing advisor, but oh well. His new advisor will undoubtedly benefit from the work that we do to market Rulon up to and following the draft. The hope is that Rulon does well and earns himself and Dynasty $ in the future from the marketing side.

By: Johnny Magodoo

Johnny Magodoo — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:04:28 +0000

Darren, you are right. But, the fact is that the fee can be for those other things but it is just a simple way to tell a player, look we are not charging for your rookie scale deal. This sounds a lot better than trying to tell a player a 2% fee on a deal is justified to cover those expenses. Obivously, bobby is not too accurate to think that rookies get signing bonuses in basketball. So, agents do take cuts off of the first contract, it is just disguised in a way that makes their services more appealing to clients (and sometimes unsophisticated parents or advisors). Does this not make sense? I agree with you, but how much marketing is there for a guy like Randolph, and this isn’t at all trying to be mean, but I think for a guy like Rulon all the PR activities are just going to benenfit him getting pub for his NFL agent and not get his marketing agent any money unless he is a success in the league. Good luck and thanks for letting me comment.